Chapters 5-8

YES!! First to post! Anyway the theme "pride" in chapters 5-8 affect Stacey himself. He gave his coat to T.J. just because T.J. said it made him look like a fat priest and so Stacey gave it to him. Stacey said he was only "loaning" it to him until he was big enough but i think that it was a big mistake. He had absolutely no pride in himself and his present that he gave it away when it was very useful and it was given to him by his uncle who they don't get to see very often. I would not have given it away since it was very valuable and it was winter so it was cold outside and a coat like that would be perfect. He did not try to get it back because his uncle said don't beat up people for your own mistake. I think he lost his pride because of what other people might think.

Yes!! Second to post! The theme for chapters 5-8 is pride. I believe that Stacey had a lack of pride in his coat when he gave it away. It was perfectly fine, but T.J. talked him into giving it to him because it fit him better. I think that letting yourself be talked into something is not a good skill to have. Not everything in life is fair, and you have to learn to not believe what everyone else says. If Stacey had any common sense, he would have had pride in his coat, and no matter how it made him look, he would wear it, since it was a gift. Also, another incident in these chapters about pride was when Cassie got back at “miz” Lillian Jean for thinking that she was below her. Instead of doing what Lillian Jean wanted, Cassie took her revenge on Lillian. Cassie kept pride in herself and told herself that it wasn’t right to be treated differently, so she took action against Lillian Jean. I think that what Cassie did was the right thing, because everyone should be treated equally

Troy u just added a little more to what i said... but i got another one, Uncle Hammer was about to hurt the Jean's family to get Cassie's pride back to where it was. Mr. Morrison stopped him from doing so, but Cassie's pride slowly came back and eventually knew her spot in the world and started to help Lillian Jean

Yes!! Fourth to post! Derek- I agree completely about your first post. Stacey should have pride in things that were given to him as gifts. Even if he doesn’t, he could pretend to so that the gift giver doesn’t feel so bad. I didn’t really understand your last sentence-I think he lost his pride because of what other people might think. Can you clarify for me?

Sorry I'm going to rephrase that, she got told by Mama about how black were treated like that and white thought they were really superior. I don't think Cassie really wanted to go by that but she decided she had to so she started to act nice to Lillian Jean.

Derek- I DO NOT agree with your second post. Cassie should not have to be below anyone else. Even if that was the beleif back then, does that make it right?

Derek- Cassie did act nice to Lillian, but only to get revenge. So she wasn't relly doing it to be nice.

Hehe whoops... I was posting that 5th one for my third one. I'll clarify for you though, many people really care about what other people think such as if you were wearing really cool pants but someone said that they looked ugly, you would fell really bad. Stacey cared very much about T.J.'s comment and took it really personally, so personally that he gave it away because of how much pride he had left in him.

I know she wasn't really trying to be nice but she tried to act nice and get on her good side at that time. Also I know she isn't under anyone but back then black people were all lower classed and treated badly and unfair. I envy the blacks that survived and lived like that back then, because it was really tough for them to do anything.

Alright up to the 10th comment with only me and Troy! I feel that we are supermen and that we could now fly across the sky like a butterfly. That rhymed! Anyway this comment is marking the new era of other people commenting. :)

Derek, I agree with your first post. I don't get why Stacey would give away her new coat, especially in the winter. I think that Stacey made a big mistake, because T.J. might not give it back. If I were Stacey, I probably wouldn't have lent the coat to T.J. First of all it was something he really needed. Second, it was a gift from an uncle that he rarely ever sees.

The theme of pride affects Stacey in Strawberry. Stacey was furious because, Mr. Barnett helped everyone else before he helped the Logan children.After he politely stated that they were waiting almost an hour,Mr. Barnett told him to wait longer.Next Stacey made a big mistake and started yelling at Mr. Barnett. I would've also done this if were in his position, or I would've just left and gone shopping somewhere else.I think Stacey lost a lot of pride when Mr. Barnett called her a "nigger" and kicked her out of the store. Also because she was so mad, she bumped into Lillian Jean. She lost more pride because Mr. Simms Pushed him off the sidewalk. Stacey felt so embarrassed. To top it off, Big Ma even made her apologize. This made him feel even more embarrassed and had almost no more pride.

I agree with you Andrew, I would've just left and dragged Cassie along with me. I don't think that it was right even if they are black to make them wait such a long time and not even get like spoken to, such as the owner telling them to wait a bit or something . Instead he just pretended that they weren't even there.

Back to Troy I know she wasn't really being nice but she was being nice to get on her god side so that Lillian Jean would trust her. Of course after Lillian Jean told Cassie all of her secrets, that was when Cassie decided to beat her up. I think that it was a pretty good strategy for beating up someone like that but i don't think it had to be that bad.

First girl to post! Anyway, Derek i agree completely with your first post. Stacey, having no money, should have never loaned that coat to T.J. because he knows the way T.J. acts and should have known better then to just give it away. Stacey will most likely never get a coat like that again and now its gone forever. Another thing that i think was a sign of pride was when Stacey was ignoring T.J. because he had made Mamma lose her job. Stacey and the other Logan children had been mad at T.J. because now Mamma was all upset. When Stacey went to T.J.'s house i thought he was gonna beat T.J. for sure. I was very curious by what Stacey had meant by "What he got coming is worse than a beating." T.J. had no buisness telling Mr.Wallace any information on Mamma. He was not a loyal friend. If i were in Stacey's position I would have beat T.J. right when I found out about what he had done. I think Stacey is doing the right thing by ignoring him. Andrew, Stacey is a boy and the situation that you are talking about happened with Cassie, not Stacey.

I agree with Amanda how Stacey ignored T.J. and didn't turn him into pulp. I also think T.J. is a brat for telling on her just because she failed him.

Derek, he shouldn't have told. It was his fault for failing. If he wanted to pass he should have studied. So in other words he shouldn't blame Mamma for his mstake of not studing.

Troy, I also agree with you how Cassie was only being nice to Lillian Jean for revenge but I don't know why she waited so long to get her revenge?

A theme of pride that happened in chapters 5-8 was when uncle Hammer gave Stacey the coat. This shows that uncle hammer has pride in stacey so he bought him such an excpensive coat. uncle Hammer could of gave him a hand me down or made him one. Stacey lost that pride when he gave in to T.J.'s teases and actually gave the no more then one day old coat away. There was pride in the beginning but Stacey's empty mindedness made him lose it. When you are apart of a black family in the south during the great depression it is kind of hard to buy new things. You are a black family in the south who never gets any respect and its in the great depression when everybody had financial problems.I really think uncle Hammer had pride in Stacey and in my opinion that was the real reason why he bought stacey the coat.

Troy-
I agree with your statement, Stacey had a total lack of pride. He was given this very nice coat and he gave it away like it was a hand me down.

Somone's pride can be very strong. For a nine year old, Cassie has a lot of pride. She shows her pride because after being shoved by Mr. Simmons, she immediatly told her uncle Hammer. Although telling a relative with a really bad temper can make a lot of things much worse. I guess you could say that her pride can probably make some trouble. She also had a lot of pride when she fought Lillian Jean, but Lillian Jean didn't expect Cassie to be so harsh so quickly because Lillian actually started to trust her. I don't really think that Cassie's fight with Lillian Jean wasn't really nessescary because you shouldn't hold on to your anger and take it out on someone else. So, I think that her pride in this chapter was basically for revenge.

I agree with Troy Dean, Stacey should not give a very important jacket to somone that doesn't even deserve it. He should just understand to cherish and be thankful in everything that he is given. Just because some people make fun of him doesn't mean that he should give it to somone that shouldn't be trusted.

For some reason my name is spelled wrong sorry!

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In Chapter 5-8 there were many examples of "pride". One was how Uncle Hammer bought Stacy the coat. He had a lot of pride in that gift for Stacy. But Stacy did not have as much pride in that coast. Later T.J. says to Stacy that he looks fat in the coat and it will fit T.J. better. Since T.J. had more pride in that coat than Stacy he gave it to T.J. because of this uncle hammer got very mad at Stacy for giving T.J. the coat. Uncle Hammer must of lost his pride in the coat and Stacy. I thought that it was not bright of Stacy to give T.j. the coat. It makes Stacy look like he cant sustain pride and not letting people take things from you. In my opinion Stacy was a fool and he had no pride in he Uncles pride for him.

Derick. Nice job on the first comment on this blog.

Cassie shows pride in Chapter 5 when she was fighting with Lillian Jean refusing to apologize just because she bumped into her. Even when the dad came over she didn't want to tell Lillian Jean she was sorry. I think the only reason that she finally apologized was because Big Ma told her to. Pride is a very valuable thing that's worth fighting for and I don't think that it should be lost just because you don't tell a white person that you're sorry just because you bump into them.

When it came to the theme of pride, Chapters 5-8 displayed A LOT of it. An instance in where pride is important would have to be the time when T.J. thought that Mrs. Logan failed him on his examinations. Even though he could have studied for the exam liked Cassie recommended, T.J. vainly believed that he could pass the test without trying (which is pretty ironic, considering the fact that he tried that last year on his exam, but to no avail; go figure). Obviously, it didn’t work, and, thinking that it was Mrs. Logan’s fault, he marched himself to the Wallace store. Out of blind pride and anger, T.J. “unknowingly” explained to Mr. Granger that Mrs. Logan wasn’t a very good teacher, “vandalized” the school books, and “purposely” failed him. As a result, Mrs. Logan got fired, which caused everybody in his class to hate him and completely ignore him. Not only that, but the Logans finally had the last straw and decided to part ways with T.J. Out of all the stunts T.J. has pulled off, this has got to be his worst one yet. He even added fuel to the fire by completely denying that it was his fault that Mrs. Logan got fired. I’m not sure on whether or not T.J. is going to change his actions as the story goes on, but I feel that T.J. really deserved the treatment he received from everyone. After all, T.J. acted on negative pride, which, as a consequence, affected him and everyone around him negatively.

Philip. I absolutely agree with you. Uncle hammer had pride in that new jacket. He could of just gave him a old one or one of his old jackets. That is the best example of pride. Also how Cassie is made fun of by Lillian Jean and how to her Cassie is "lower than her". But Cassie got pride and she beats her up. Now Cassie and Stacy have pride in these chapters. I can finally annul this from my homework list!

Troy, I agree on your first post when you said that Stacey giving away his first coat wasn't a very good idea. Just because someone criticizes what you have doesn't mean that you have to listen to it, unless it’s constructive criticism. After knowing T.J. for such a long time, Stacey should have realized that what T.J. was telling him wasn’t constructive at all; instead, it was a trick to give him the jacket. However, Troy, I do not agree on the second part of your post, where you said Cassie taking revenge on Lillian Jean was the right thing to do. I must admit, gaining Lillian’s trust so Cassie had a better chance of turning on her was a pretty clever idea, but it didn’t seem like it was the best thing for her to do. When Lillian Jean said that she actually trusted Cassie, she really sounded like she meant it. Cassie could have raised her status with Lillian Jean, causing Lillian Jean to treat her equally: After all, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Also, what if Lillian Jean really told her dad what happened at the forest that day? The Logans would be in a big dilemma, and they could even lose their land, or even worse: they could be arrested.

Pride was the theme that occurred in chapters 5-8. People can do all sorts of things out of pride. Cassie was one person who acted out of pride. When she was in Strawberry, she had accidentally bumped into Lillian Jean Simms and then Lillian Jean demanded an apology. When Cassie apologized, I thought the whole incident was over, but then Lillian Jean told Cassie to get in the road. When Lillian Jean said that, I didn’t like her. I wondered how someone as nasty as she could even be related to someone as friendly as Jeremy. I liked when Cassie didn’t get in the road when Lillian Jean demanded her to go. It was out of her pride and dignity that she did not get in the road. I thought that she was very brave not to get in the road, but I also thought that she was being foolish. If I were her, I would have just gotten in the road to avoid all the trouble that followed. The consequences of her not getting in the road were that Mr. Simms twisted her arm to the point where it started hurting and forced her to apologize. I thought that the Simmses were horrible people, with the exception of Jeremy. She did not apologize when Mr. Simms forced her to, but then Big Ma showed up and made her. After Cassie did apologize, Mr. Simms said to call Lillian Jean Ms. Lillian Jean. As a consequence of her pride, she was humiliated in public. The whole incident just disgusted me. I wondered how an adult can be so cruel to a little girl over her bumping into her daughter by accident. I feel that Cassie should have refused to get in the road. I felt like she was taking a stand for black people, even though she may not have realized it herself. I would not have been able to do this, but I admired Cassie for doing it. It was like she was rebelling about how whites thought that they were so much better than blacks.

Like Troy, I do not agree with Derek’s second post. Derek said that Cassie found her spot in the world and started to help Lillian Jean. That was not true. She only started to help Lillian Jean so she could earn her trust. She was not helping Lillian Jean because she felt it was her duty, but she wanted to get even. Cassie did not believe that blacks should be servants to whites.

I also do not think pride had much to do with Stacey giving away the coat, as Derek said it did in his first post. I think that Stacey wasn’t very smart in giving away the coat that may have been the best coat that he will ever see. I think that T.J. is a good con artist and is not such a nice kid to be around. After I read chapters 5-8, my respect for T.J. decreased dramatically. After I had read chapters 1-4, I just disliked him. Now I absolutely despise him for his actions. On top of tricking Stacey into giving him the coat, he also got Mama fired. Now the Logans may not have enough money to pay for the land.

I agree with Rajat, i don't think T.J. is a really good friend at all. If i were Stacey I would've stopped liking him.

WUT NOW! 36th TO BLOG! ~haha~ Anyway, I think that the biggest example of pride thoughout these chapters was when Cassie stood up to both Mr. Barnett and Lillian Jean. As I read Cassie's actions taking place, I felt like if I was there I would've slapped her across the face when she told off those white people. I kept thinking, "stupid, stupid,STUPID!!!!" I didn't get it, until I read on and realized that she had no idea about how whites were alledgedly better than blacks. THEN I was able to give her sympothy. Anyway, when she came home to her Uncle Hammer, she gave him every detail about "Them ole Simmses" when she wasn't smart enough to stop when Big Ma signaled. Hammer got very upset with these news and went out to teach Charlie a lesson, but luckely Mr. Morrison stopped him.

Also, I agree with Rajat. As I was reading Derek's post, I thought the same that Stacy giving T.J. the coat didn't have anything to do with pride. -No offense, Derek-

I defiantly agree with Rajat. That whole scene also disgusted me too. I also wondered how a grown adult could be so cruel as to twist a child's arm just because she bumped into his daughter. Mr. Simms treats Cassie like she isn't even a child. Just because she is black doesn't mean she isn't a kid just like his own daughter.

Oh, Taylor, definatly. And to think that this was legal back then!

I agree with Taylor. Just because you bump into someone doesn't give them the right to threaten you to say your sorry. When I bump into someone in a store, they don;t grab my arm and pull it back so I can say im sorry and i don't pull their arm back if they bump into me; no matter what color they are. I think Mr.Simms was very wrong for doing that to a 9 year old girl.

-Kayla- I agree with you and I would probably have done the same thing. At first I thought she was doing this on purpose to Mr.Barnett but then as I read on i realized she didn't have a clue what was going on between the races. I felt so bad!!!!!

One incident that showed pride was when Stacey gave his new wool coat to TJ. Uncle Hammer had bought a brand new wool coat for Stacey. When Stacey wore it, TJ told him it made him look like he was fat and that he should give it to him instead. Out of pride, Stacey listened to TJ and gave him the coat. He did this because he cared more about his image. Even though Stacey received it as a gift and needed it, he took pride in his appearance. I don’t think this was a good idea because his family was poor and when he got a nice coat, he gave it away like he didn’t care about it. Plus, his family doesn’t have a lot of money and he doesn’t get a new coat very often, so when he does, he should keep it and be grateful.

Kayla, you don't think that he gave the coat away because he lost his "pride" all because T.J. said it made him look like a fat priest. Would you have gave into that comment? If you didn't don't you think that you kept your pride?

Oh and see Kelly and Troy agreed with me, so did Andrew and some other people but I'm not going to read through all of the comments.

Adriana, I agree with you when you said TJ showed pride when he told Mr. Granger about Mrs. Logan. He only did that so it didn't look like it was his fault he failed the exam. I also agreed when you said he deserved the other kids ignoring him. It wasn't right of him to blame it on Mrs. Logan.

Cassie has a lot of pride in her family. She, being nine, doesn't understand that whites feel above her. When she is in the Barnett's store, she acts out because she feels that she is equal and doesn't understand that white people are the first priority for storeowners who want their store to profit. She shows that she is proud to be herself saying “I ain’t nobody’s little nigger”. Cassie is a very independent person. When she tells Uncle Hammer, I think she is relieved to have somebody who will listen to her and let her have her own opinion. Her pride has consequences. She gets kicked out of Mr. Barnett’s store because of her pride, she has to apologize to “Miz” Lillian Jean for knocking into her, and she almost gets Uncle Hammer killed because he tries to go after Charlie Simms.
I agree with Rajat, if Cassie had gone into the road, it would have made the situation a lot less complicated. I know if I was Cassie, I would have just gone to the road to avoid complications. Like Taylor said, Mr. Simms doesn’t treat her like a child; he treats her as if she is something that has no feelings whatsoever.

When Cassie stood up for herself in mr. Barnett's store she definitely had shown pride. When mr. barnett filled everyone's orders before T.j's , even though they were first cassie got mad. Cassie stood up to mr. Barnett and reminded herself that she was as good as everyone else. She was proud to be who she was and she had pride. In the end she did get kicked out of the store but she did do what she thought was right. I think she did the right thing but if I was her I probably wouldn't have had that much courage to stand up to an adult like that.

An incident that involved pride was when Cassie went to the market with Big Ma. She stood up for herself when Mr. Barnett wouldn’t get the items from the shopping list. He took other lists from other white people but didn’t take Big Ma’s list that Cassie had. She asked Mr. Barnett politely to get the items on the list but he yelled at her. The consequences of actions Cassie had her kicked out of his stand. I would of complained about the service just like Cassie. It wasn’t fair that she had to wait when she was first in line and Mr. Barnett took another order from a couple of white people.

Frank- I agree with your comment because Uncle Hammer probably spent a lot of money on that coat and Stacey just gave it away to T.J

The Logan’s are a very proud family. They take pride in their land and in each other. When Cassie mistakenly bumped into Lillian Jean she ordered Cassie to apologize so Cassie does but when Lillian Jean says that she has to go down into the road so she doesn’t bump into anyone else Cassie refuses. She takes pride in who she is and realizes that she shouldn’t be treated differently because of her skin color. Due to her refusing, Lillian Jean’s father grabs Cassie and pushes her into the road. Cassie then runs away with Mr. Simms following her and ordering her to apologize again to Lillian Jean. When she reaches Big Ma she is told to apologize. Do you think that Papa would have made Cassie do the same? Why do you think Big Ma made Cassie apologize to Lillian Jean?

Uhhhh... Dan they said in the book why Big Ma made her apologize.

Troy- I disagree with you when you say that Cassie did the right thing by taking action against Lillian Jean. I don’t think that she should have taken action. If anything she should have just left things the way they were. If Mr. Simms found out about what Cassie did to Lillian Jean she could be in deep trouble. It could even jeopardize her family and the land. She was acting solely on harsh feelings instead of thinking before she acted.

But Dan, her father left the desicion up to her on how to act.

YAY!!! I remembered! Ok so the Logan’s are a pretty proud family, especially considering there skin color. They stand up to everybody no matter what. I think the best example of this was when Cassie stood up to Lillian Jean. This shows that Cassie has pride in herself and her beliefs. Truthfully, Lillian Jean was being stuck-up, stubborn, and pretty racist towards Cassie. If I was in that position, I would have done the same thing as Cassie, except I would refuse to apologize or call Lillian Jean “Ms. Lillian Jean.” Yes, my arm would have probably been torn off, but that’s my pride…still, Cassie has a LOT of pride if she was actually willing to stand up to Lillian Jean like that.

And Dan, i thikn Big Ma made Cassie apologize this way the Logan's weren't burned at the stake or something...

你們好嗎?

YAY! Kristens posting (: Kidding! Okay, anyway. In chapters 5-8 the incident that showed the "pride" was when Cassie beat up Lillian Jean.
Even though it was dangerous and inappropriate to take action that way she definately showed her who was boss. Although how she kissed up to Lillian and black mailed her was harsch i feel that she deserved it. After
all lets face it, Lillian was a snooty-booty, a know-it-all and unkind to Cassie. She showed her pride by taking action and giving it right back to Lillian. But! Didn't Lillian start it first? So technically, it wasn't entirely her fault.
I feel that she earned a newfound respect from Lillian by showing her she could fight back. I think that maybe Cassie had no other way to show her feelings because she was balck and nobody took her or her "kind" seriously. Cassiedefinatley showed she has pride in herself.

I feel this whole book has a lot to do with pride. The Logan family has pride because of the land they have owned for many years. In these chapters I think Cassie showed pride when Mr. Simms pushed her into the street in Strawberry (love that name) and she did not want to apologize to Lillian Jean because Cassie didn’t think what she did was so wrong. She showed pride because she didn’t let the Simms think they were better than her until Big Ma told Cassie to apologize to avoid trouble. However, I also think Cassie did not show pride because after the incident she ran into the wagon and cried. I know she had to grow up in this chapter (7) and it was ok for her to cry but it still wasn’t the best thing to do to show her pride in who she is.

Im responding to Dan panko's comment. I think Cassie may not have done the right thing but she took action. I think she recieved some respect for that.
Also like amanda said, her father left it up to her to decide what she wanted to do.

In my opinion, the biggest example of pride in this story is how Cassie acted throughout the entire Strawberry experience. First, when in Barnett's store, she was angry that Barnett was waiting on every other person who entered the store, and politely asked Mr. Barnett to wait on them. After he told her no, she got upset and was too proud too back down from Mr. Barnett. After leaving the store and bumping into Lillian Jean, she was also too proud to step off the sidewalk, and that got her into trouble with the Simmses. Even after that, she was still too proud to apologize twice to "Miz" Lillian Jean. On a side note, that was a devilish little stunt she played on Lillian Jean in return, but I think she is regretting it now that she knows Lillian Jean thought she was really her friend/acquaintance.

Response( don't feel like posting twice in a row, you may as well put it all in one post in my opinion):Derek;I agree with you and Troy that giving away the coat was downright stupid, but I disagree with you on a matter of pride; it was more a matter of T.J. and his slick-talk that conned Stacey out of the coat.
Derek:I'd say something about your thinking her treatment of Lillian Hean was true, but you all ready realized your mistake. Nice save.
Derek(what is with me disagreeing with you so much?):I don't think Uncle Hammer was going to ki-er, hurt the Simmses to get Cassie's pride back, I think that you aren't going to get her pride back up that high; some stuff you never completely recover from. I'd venture he was just so angry that he lost control for a while, and with all he'd experienced, he didn't want his brother's kids to go through what he did as a child (these things usually get better with time; there are a lot less true racists know then there are today).

I agree with Derek's comment (thank you Google Translate) in regard to Cohen.

Haha... You used Google translate to see what i typed in? Anyway yeah I realized my mistake after i posted it but even in my first post I was partially right.

Kelly, I disagree with what you said about Stacey giving T.J. the coat out of pride. I think he gave it to T.J. because he conned it out of him. Stacey showed pride when he didn't take the coat because Uncle Hammer taught him a lesson: not to care so much what other people say about him because it won't get him far in life if he does. Respecting his mistake and letting T.J. keep the coat shows Stacey's pride in learning from his mistakes and keeping his word.

All the way back to Andrew Woodin, i just realized that you called Stacey a "her" and Stacey's a boy, i realized cause i saw Amanda's comment and went back to read it over.

Yeah, I'm just good like that. Anyway, seeing as it's an opinion question, you can't be right or wrong (oh, god, I sound like a teacher!), but I agree with your support (he gave him the coat because they said it made him look like a fat priest and that even loaning it to him was a bad idea.

I kinda liked how Cassie beat up that girl (not that I support it or anything). She really showed how she felt to Simms and it caused her to regain her personal confidence. However, even though her pride was restored, I think that an attack of the Wallaces will be caused by this (notice the book cover- flames and Stacey is GONE!)

Then Jimmy what did I say in Chinese? What did I type?

Oh with the Chinese already!

Ciara's right. The coat incident had nothing to do with pride. T.J. is just a terrible narcissus who could care less about his "friends."

Connor don't you think if Stacey had any pride in himself if he would ignore it and praise himself? Another sign of pride in this situation is how he didn't go beat up T.J. to get it back, which seemed like he had some pride in what he did.

One scene in chapters 5-8 I thought showed pride was when Stacy gave his wool coat from Uncle Hammer to TJ. Uncle Hammer bought a nice new woolen coat for Stacy.Tj was jealous obviously and when Stacy put it on he said he looked fat in it and like a priest he said it would have looked better on him. At first I thought that Stacy believed him and thats why he gave the coat to him. I now know that he did was to pride and to make others feel happy. We all know that Stacy needed the coat more than TJ. It was winter and it would be getting colder out and Stacy was in ,ore need of the coat. Also, if i was in their situation I would haven't given up the coat. Stacy was lucky to get a new coat since they don't have a lot of money and its not very often that they get new clothes. I would have kept it and be happy that I have it. But, it was nice for Stacy to give up his coat for TJ. :)

I agree with Rajat Chandra. It was foolish for Cassie not to just apologize but instead they had to go the hard way. I would have just gotten in the road to in I was her. I was also proud that she did that. At least she was standing up for something that she believed in. I think she took a big part in bravery at this point!

Really late post =p
A scene in chapters 5-8 was when cassie beat up lillian jean. This was a foolish act for a black to beat up a white, but it shows how much pride cassie has. She fooled a white and used Lillian's secrets as blackmail. Which shows how smart cassie is to use the secrets against lillian.

I agree with Kristen, because it was Lillian's fault she got beat up she was a (snooty-booty) as said by kristen. No one did take blacks seriously back then which was terrible. It makes me feel disgusted with the way the blacks were treated. It took a lot of pride for blacks to get through the day and keep their heads high with all the remarks whites made

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I think I an incident in the novel that shows pride (Or a losing of pride in this case) was when Stacey received that ornate coat from Uncle Hammer, and then she just handed it over to T.J. like it was some frivolous nonentity! Clearly that coat should have been treated with the highest regards considering that 1) It was given as a gift from a relative, which should always be treated well and 2) It was something that their family wasn't used to because they weren't very wealthy. Even if they were, I don't think they would show their wealth in such an audacious manner, but remain frugal and level-headed. He gave it to T.J. because T.J. was teasing him about how it was oversized that it looked like something the fat preacher could have worn. Considering they had just gotten back from church when he said this, it's understandable that he connected it to the priest. It was very nice if Uncle Hammer to have given him that coat (The symbol representing pride), and Stacey giving it away for a churlish reason, such as looking fat in it, shows the pride being lost. If I were put into that situation I don't think I would have cared about what T.J. said, let alone give it to him! I would have said something like, "Well, ya know what!? I suppose it would be a good idea for you to have it considering your so FAT!" Oh yeah... BURN! :] Much loveee...

Moesch, I don't really think that shows her pride, it seemed more like a loss of pride (Wow, I really must not be diggin pride nowadays...) because she reverted to using blackmail as a solution rather than trying to confront the problem face-on and try to resolve it, which doesn't seem very prideful.

Derek:According to Google Translate, 你們好嗎?=You all right?
Corey:Wow, just got that response in, huh?
Woodin:I also noticed you confused Stacey and Cassie in your second post. Cassie yelled at Mr. Barnett, got kicked out, etc.